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2019/08/09

When, where and Who really made the most beautiful spinning jennies, bone crank automata, napoleonic PoW in England??

 

Origine des plus belles "spinning jennies" (automates), les prisonniers français en Angleterre , ou les artisans de Méru dans l'Oise avec les ivoiriers de Dieppe, avant , après 1815 ?

Exemples et contre-exemples


  When, where and Who really made the most beautiful spinning jennies, bone crank automata, napoleonic PoW in England, or craftsmen of  Méru , Oise France with other craftsmen of Dieppe, after or before 1815?

SOURCE 1/2:

 
« L’IVOIRE DE DIEPPE »
Ce que l’on appelle communément « l’Ivoire de Dieppe » est en
réalité de l’os travaillé par les tabletiers, dont la plupart étaient
établis à Méru (Oise). Leurs œuvres, souvent des fileuses, des scènes
de la vie quotidienne, parfois polychromes ne sont en aucun cas des
œuvres dites de « ponton » (comme cela fut malencontreusement
largement propagé), mais celles d’habiles tabletiers qui réalisèrent
les personnages en série, pour les placer isolément ou en scènes.
source https://www.kohn.paris/catalogue/09-mars-2016/ 

« THE IVORY OF DIEPPE »

What is commonly called « the Ivory of Dieppe » is actually bone

worked by Craftsmen, most of which were established in Meru

(Oise). Their works (often « Spinning Jenny », life scenes of the time)

sometimes polychrome, are by no means works called « dock works »

(as was mistakenly widely spread), but those of skilled art workers

(tabletiers) realizing characters series, to place them lonely (like the

Spinning Jenny’s) or in sceneries.
 source https://www.kohn.paris/catalogue/09-mars-2016/ 





 source https://www.kohn.paris/catalogue/09-mars-2016/ 

résultat vente : 3000€ 





(artiste et date inconnus)

source: https://www.kohn.paris/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Marc-Arthur_Kohn_catalogue_09-03-2016.pdf

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contre exemple 1/2

Spinning jenny achetée à Norman Cross par Mr. Wright at Norman Cross.  avant 1815.



"The group of figures on a platform (Plate XVI, Fig. 1), is one of many such mechanical toys or ornaments p. 131known to the author.  This is beautifully preserved, having been kept in the box in which it was purchased for many years.  When the lower wheel below the platform is turned, by an arrangement of the threads passing over the wheels, the various figures move, the lady in the centre turns the winding-wheel, the child moves forward, the soldier and the lady waltz, the mother tosses her baby, turning her head to look at it, while the lady on the left prepares the tea.  The owner of this ornament is the grandson of its purchaser." Thomas James Walker.


Thomas James Walker  The depot for POW at Norman Cross....
source:https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43487/43487-h/43487-h.htm
page 132.


pict: Peterborough Museum .moving mechanical model 


contre exemple 2/2


voir ci-dessus




"made by French prisoners of war in Carnarvon Gaol and given to the Lord Lieutenant of Carnarvon Castle for his kindness during their captivity" (Welsh: Castell Caernarfon )

Paul Chamberlain, author of 'Hell Upon Water: Prisoners of War in Britain 1793-1815' said:
From 1793 until 1814, over 200,000 French and French allies were held as PoWs, and whilst it's impossible to put a definite figure on it, several thousand of them would have been held in Wales.

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 SOURCE 2/2:

 http://www.gazette-drouot.com/static/magazine_ventes_aux_encheres/cotes_et_tendances/ivoire_dieppe.html

"L’ivoire est d’abord envoyé dans l’Oise, dans le canton de Méru, pour être débité, puis retourné à Dieppe pour y être sculpté, et enfin déposé à Paris..."

 Par Anne Doridou_Heim-La Gazette Drouot N°10 du 12 mars 2010

Musée de Méru


source: affiche musée de Méru

Ivoiriers de Dieppe

Jean Colette et aujourd'hui sa fille Annick Colette



voir aussi Francis Migean

Pierre Meyer

Musée des ivoires d'Yvetot


photo:https://www.amysduvieuxdieppe.com/ivoiriers/

Exemple:

Le bon Henry [anciennement le Ville de Dieppe]
maquette attribuée à 

   Dieppe, 1818/04/05 ; Dieppe (?), 1882/04/26 ; nationalité : Française

 source

http://www2.culture.gouv.fr/public/mistral/joconde_fr




autres sources







http://www.storiesofpeterborough.com/peterboroughmuseum/normancross/index.php?page=0

Moving mechanical bone models.

Norman Cross Collection

The Prison at Norman Cross, near Peterborough, was built to hold French and Dutch prisoners captured during the Napoleonic Wars between 1797 and 1815.



Considered both the largest and finest collection of such items in the world, the museum displays objects of carved bone and ivory, including model ships, guillotines, needlework boxes, playing cards and articles of straw marquetry.



72. Model Cockerel (Life-Size)

Category: Model
Technique: Carved
Material: Bone
Accession Number: PETMG:1996.006




pict: Peterborough Museum .moving mechanical model


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2019/07/31

Eldred's spinning jenny
























(artiste et date inconnus)





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2019/05/07

Rare Spinning jenny with date and name of the artist.


Rare  Spinning jenny  with date and name of the artist.

maybe the only one

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  Spinning jenny de 1809,  faite par Etienne Vongurt , prisonnier français en Angleterre pendant les guerres napoléoniennes .
 Napoleonic PoW Spinning jenny made by Etienne Vongurt  1809.





https://napoleonic-pow.blogspot.com/2018/04/qui-fabrique-les-plus-belles-spinning.html

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2019/02/13

Vente Bonhams. Lot d'objets peut-être fabriqués par des prisonniers des guerres napoleoniennes.


Vente Bonhams. Lot d'objets peut-être fabriqués par des prisonniers des guerres napoléoniennes.









A collection of Napoleonic prisoner-of-war work, early 19th century,
comprising a bone "Spinning Jenny" automaton with two seated Breton ladies with spinning wheel above geared mechanism, now on stand and under glass dome, two bone marrow scoops, a bone cup-and-ball game, two star-work boxes, a set of bone dominoes in barrel case and another set of bone dominoes in carved case with sliding lid painted with full length portraits of a man and a lad, the case 6 1/2in (16.5cm) long (qty)




(artiste et date inconnus)

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2018/10/17

CARVED AND POLYCHROME-PAINTED BONE TROOP WAGON, EARLY NINETEENTH CENTURY.


CARVED AND POLYCHROME-PAINTED BONE TROOP WAGON, EARLY NINETEENTH CENTURY.




Heightened in red and blue, the wagon platform on four working spoke wheels, the delicate fretted sides applied with small tortoiseshell roundels and joined by turned columns, surrounded by six soldiers standing guard with moveable arms and carrying bayonettes, enclosing nine soldiers engaged in a drill, carrying bayonettes and standing underneath a gate with suspended target. Height 6 ⅛ inches, length 12 ¼ inches.




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Carved bone automaton of a cooper, standing behind a barrel

 Carved bone automaton of a cooper, standing behind a barrel

Figure turns round and hits hammer 


 sources:
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2018/04/06

When, where and Who really made the most beautiful napoleonic PoW spinning jennies...Origine des plus belles fileuses en os animées "spinning jenny" ?

 

Origine des plus belles "spinning jennies" (automates), les prisonniers français en Angleterre , ou les artisans de Méru dans l'Oise avec les ivoiriers de Dieppe, avant , après 1815 ?

Exemples et contre-exemples


  When, where and Who really made the most beautiful spinning jennies, bone crank automata, napoleonic PoW in England, or craftsmen of  Méru , Oise France with other craftsmen of Dieppe, after or before 1815?

SOURCE 1/2:

 
« L’IVOIRE DE DIEPPE »
Ce que l’on appelle communément « l’Ivoire de Dieppe » est en
réalité de l’os travaillé par les tabletiers, dont la plupart étaient
établis à Méru (Oise). Leurs œuvres, souvent des fileuses, des scènes
de la vie quotidienne, parfois polychromes ne sont en aucun cas des
œuvres dites de « ponton » (comme cela fut malencontreusement
largement propagé), mais celles d’habiles tabletiers qui réalisèrent
les personnages en série, pour les placer isolément ou en scènes.
source https://www.kohn.paris/catalogue/09-mars-2016/ 

« THE IVORY OF DIEPPE »

What is commonly called « the Ivory of Dieppe » is actually bone

worked by Craftsmen, most of which were established in Meru

(Oise). Their works (often « Spinning Jenny », life scenes of the time)

sometimes polychrome, are by no means works called « dock works »

(as was mistakenly widely spread), but those of skilled art workers

(tabletiers) realizing characters series, to place them lonely (like the

Spinning Jenny’s) or in sceneries.
 source https://www.kohn.paris/catalogue/09-mars-2016/ 





 source https://www.kohn.paris/catalogue/09-mars-2016/ 

résultat vente : 3000€ 





(artiste et date inconnus)

source: https://www.kohn.paris/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Marc-Arthur_Kohn_catalogue_09-03-2016.pdf

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contre exemple 1/2

Spinning jenny achetée à Norman Cross par Mr. Wright at Norman Cross.  avant 1815.



"The group of figures on a platform (Plate XVI, Fig. 1), is one of many such mechanical toys or ornaments p. 131known to the author.  This is beautifully preserved, having been kept in the box in which it was purchased for many years.  When the lower wheel below the platform is turned, by an arrangement of the threads passing over the wheels, the various figures move, the lady in the centre turns the winding-wheel, the child moves forward, the soldier and the lady waltz, the mother tosses her baby, turning her head to look at it, while the lady on the left prepares the tea.  The owner of this ornament is the grandson of its purchaser." Thomas James Walker.


Thomas James Walker  The depot for POW at Norman Cross....
source:https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43487/43487-h/43487-h.htm
page 132.


pict: Peterborough Museum .moving mechanical model 


contre exemple 2/2


voir ci-dessus




"made by French prisoners of war in Carnarvon Gaol and given to the Lord Lieutenant of Carnarvon Castle for his kindness during their captivity" (Welsh: Castell Caernarfon )

Paul Chamberlain, author of 'Hell Upon Water: Prisoners of War in Britain 1793-1815' said:
From 1793 until 1814, over 200,000 French and French allies were held as PoWs, and whilst it's impossible to put a definite figure on it, several thousand of them would have been held in Wales.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 SOURCE 2/2:

 http://www.gazette-drouot.com/static/magazine_ventes_aux_encheres/cotes_et_tendances/ivoire_dieppe.html

"L’ivoire est d’abord envoyé dans l’Oise, dans le canton de Méru, pour être débité, puis retourné à Dieppe pour y être sculpté, et enfin déposé à Paris..."

 Par Anne Doridou_Heim-La Gazette Drouot N°10 du 12 mars 2010

Musée de Méru


source: affiche musée de Méru

Ivoiriers de Dieppe

Jean Colette et aujourd'hui sa fille Annick Colette



voir aussi Francis Migean

Pierre Meyer

Musée des ivoires d'Yvetot


photo:https://www.amysduvieuxdieppe.com/ivoiriers/

Exemple:

Le bon Henry [anciennement le Ville de Dieppe]
maquette attribuée à 

   Dieppe, 1818/04/05 ; Dieppe (?), 1882/04/26 ; nationalité : Française

 source

http://www2.culture.gouv.fr/public/mistral/joconde_fr




autres sources







http://www.storiesofpeterborough.com/peterboroughmuseum/normancross/index.php?page=0

Moving mechanical bone models.

Norman Cross Collection

The Prison at Norman Cross, near Peterborough, was built to hold French and Dutch prisoners captured during the Napoleonic Wars between 1797 and 1815.



Considered both the largest and finest collection of such items in the world, the museum displays objects of carved bone and ivory, including model ships, guillotines, needlework boxes, playing cards and articles of straw marquetry.



72. Model Cockerel (Life-Size)

Category: Model
Technique: Carved
Material: Bone
Accession Number: PETMG:1996.006




pict: Peterborough Museum .moving mechanical model


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2018/04/02

Rare tonnelier automate (artiste et date inconnus)

Rare tonnelier automate

(artiste et date inconnus)


Turning the crank makes the barrel maker revolve around the barrel, with his hands moving up and down as if he is building it. Mechanism contained within the pedestal.
source








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2017/10/19

Spinning jenny avec 3 personnages...

Spinning jenny avec 3 personnages...

(artiste et date inconnus)






http://www.martelmaidesauctions.com        St. Peter Port , Guernsey
An early 19th century Napoleonic Prisoner of War spinning jenny bone automaton, French, with two partially painted polychrome Breton ladies, both sat on high open carved chairs with mechanically moving arms and head, one making a ball of thread with a short length of twine, the other working the spinning wheel, together with a painted gentleman with articulated head, arms and leg, appearing to operate a treadle lathe and drawknife, all raised on a bordered platform over gears, some losses and modern repairs, 4½in. (11.4 cm.) high. source :  https://www.the-saleroom.com
  • Estimate: 2,000 - 3,000 GBP

(artiste et date inconnus)

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2017/10/02

Guillotine, spinning jenny, urne....vente Sotheby 2017 .....

Guillotine, spinning jenny, urne....vente Sotheby's 2017 .....

(artiste et date inconnus)

sources and pictures http://www.sothebys.com

all pictures Sotheby's


all photos Sotheby's



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2017/08/27

CARVED BONE CALVARY SCENE

 NAPOLEONIC PRISONER-OF-WAR CARVED BONE CALVARY SCENE
 may 2016


(artiste et date inconnus)



constructed from a section of shin bone, with lattice cut glazed door opening to reveal polychrome Calvary scene on a platform painted with flowers to the front and mounted on three feet, the reverse ornately carved overall, - 5in. (12.5cm.) high
£700-900  AUCTION ALREADY HELD


2017/08/17

Femmes et enfants prisonniers des pontons, dont Julienne David ...

Women and children napoleonic PoW  on hulk



LA SANTE DES PRISONNIERS DES PONTONS  1797  1814 (extraits)